(Admittedly the GT Sisters are non-human Cybertronians, despite appearances, but this definitely smacks of fiction working to explain the toyline's scale issue.). Further, Cheetor and Tigatron's toys use the same (Deluxe) mold, but Tigatron is a head taller in the show (both because tigers are larger than cheetahs, and because Cheetor is "a kid"). The directand indirectsuccessors to Alternators (Binaltech Asterisk, Kiss Players, Human Alliance) also maintained a mostly consistent internal scale with their car figures. Transformers, the toyline based on the 2007 live-action movie, retains many size classes from before: Legends Class, at US$4. However, the term is not used, as one might assume, to refer to the size ratio between different characters and their surroundings, but to refer to size classes. A vaguely similar explanation appeared in Dreamwave's More than Meets the Eye encyclopedia. In the Cybertron cartoon, the Recon Mini-Con Team have slightly-larger-than-human robot modes, but their alternate modes are large enough for a single human passenger, implying either a little size-changing or that their cockpits are kinda cramped. This is purely for dramatic effect. To start with, Cybertron was shown throughout Generation 1 with buildings visible from space. For example, the original Air Raid transforms into an F-15 Eagle, but his toy is half the size of the original Starscream's. The toy line, on the other hand, mostly ignores those additional components, resulting in massive scale discrepancies (see above) - Long Haul, who forms Devastator's right leg, is a massive Caterpillar 773B mining dump truck, which should make him considerably larger than Rampage, a Caterpillar D9L bulldozer who forms the left leg. Optimus Prime was the first Prime to raise his hand in greeting, uniting all the Primes and becoming their official mediator. Most notably, the additional kibble added to their bodies shows in glaring contrast to already-existing car parts, indicating that their aerial forms are quite undersized. The Deluxe Cheetor, on the other hand, was too small to match scales with most of the other toys (again, using the cartoon as a yardstick). For example, Movie Jazz's Pontiac Solstice alternate mode is a tiny car, and any size class that includes both him and Bumblebee (a Chevrolet Camaro) will result in scale problems between the toys. Nevertheless, if one assumes that most vehicle altmodes are intended for human-sized passengers, comparing toys such as Chromedome with Lightspeed suggests the scale problem continues. Whether that meant creatures of human scale or even smaller stature is never clarified, but the Micromasters' passenger compartments are presumably too small to accommodate human passengers. For example, Optimus Prime is routinely shown as thoroughly gargantuan, several stories in height, and capable of cradling humans in his palm. If I asked myself this question, I'd say that Megatron is the same height as Predaking. Thus, in the context of Transformers, "city" is perhaps better read as "building" or "fortress". This is a height chart of the Prime characters with my own OC added and a pair of non-canon characters, that are real in the overall continuity. I've gotten MULTIPLE production charts from here in North America and from sources in Japan! report. are used in official product descriptions and press releases, and have since been adopted by the fandom. For all of these reasons, it is usually considered one of the best Transformers cartoons. Based on this: I'd put Tailgate and the other minicons around 15 feet tall, which is still huge in comparison to a human. Other instances of multiple-size characters are more clear cut; the Spychanger incarnations of various 2001 Robots in Disguise characters, for instance, are simply scaled-down representations of the same characters in the same bodies, not meant to interact with the much larger "main" toys, as are the later "Legends of Cybertron" toys in Cybertron. Though jets are much larger than cars, they're drawn the same height so the battles appear fair (and also to make it easier to animate; blocking a shot where characters differ radically in height is difficult). Before the Great War, Optimus Prime was originally known as Orion Pax; a young data clerk who worked in Iacon, under the wing of Alpha Trion. E.g., Blaster's toy, in robot mode, is taller than most other Transformers. The cartoons and comics typically show this without explanation, leaving the audience to attribute it to advanced alien technology. Shatter and Dropkick were introduced as the first Triple Changers in the film franchise with two Earth-based vehicle forms (with Drift having a Cybertronian helicopter mode alongside his car mode). The Generations update of Cybertron Metroplex in the Legacy toyline similarly accomplished broadly show accurate scaling with regular Deluxe and Voyager class figures by bumping him up a size class or three with a new Titan class toy. By the same token, Rodimus is always depicted as being an equal stature to his opposing leader Galvatron, whereas the toy Galvatron is instead the same size as Magnus. Characters with alternate modes that are not meant to be replicas of real-world things (or at least, close enough while being legally-distinct from said things) are difficult to accurately scale, as they generally transform into futuristic or Cybertronian vehicles whose size we don't really know or, indeed, they don't transform into vehicles at all. Transformers are currently formalised to a variety of size classes, which dictate the approximate cost and dimensions of a figure. Scale in Transformers is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed. That said, the Stunticon molds don't scale well with anyone else bar Groove, and Silverbolt remains tiny; seemingly the only character in-scale with his mold is maybe Sky Lynx. Animated departs from this, where Decepticons are sometimes depicted larger than the Autobots to emphasize the rookie nature of the team handling imposing and dangerous enemies. So, probably close to or at 40ft. However, it's hard to begrudge Hasbro not offering us a Primus toy the size of an asteroid. Sometimes artists draw a character at a different size intentionally. Far worse is the other Diaclone combiner team, the Trainbots, who have train engine altmodes, yet their toys are among the smallest of the Diaclone releases. In Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, Metroplex is portrayed not so much as the city, but a part of the city; with one hand being large enough to carry Optimus or crush Megatron. The Seekers are about right (going by robot mode, anyway, as ever), but Grimlock's reissue is a little shorter than MP-10 Optimus, when he should be about a head taller. The chart below displays the new prices. Transformers fiction often depicts characters to the same relative scale as the toys, which duplicates the intra-toyline problems described above. Another glaring scale problem comes in the form of the Seekers, who turn into F-15 Eagles which, in real life, are 19.4 m (63.8 feet) long. Definitely believe that Wheeljack is closer to their size, and Cliffjumper is as large, if not larger than Bumblebee. They can each pilot each other's vehicles or ride as a passenger. From his newly-erected fortressDarkmount, Megatron reestablishes contact withShockwave, learning the scientist has cloned aPredaconfor the intent of hunting down the Autobots. Terms like "Legends scale", "Deluxe scale", "Voyager scale", etc. Alternity would follow in Alternators's footsteps with a series of smaller 1:32-scale licensed cars as well as stuffing characters who traditionally don't have automobile alternate modes into modern-day civilian vehicles. I recall reading years ago that Bayverse Optimus stood at somewhere between 28' - 32' tall, and that Bayverse Megatron stood supposedly at 35' feet tall (according to magazine articles and TFWiki). That these toys represent hyper-evolved beings most of the time make it all the more head-scratch-inducing. Parents Need to Know. Likewise Dinobot is considerably larger than a real Velociraptor. Most such instances occur in the Beast Wars era. Prime Master Class at US$6.99 Legends Class, at US$9.99 Deluxe Class, at US . Ultimately, Megatron manipulates the Autobots into destroying the project when he discoversPredakingis intelligent, and therefore a potential power rival. The Masterpiece line, seemingly partly in homage to the heady days of Diaclone, also frequently includes characters like Spike that end up not too far off the Diaclone drivers in scale next to the vehicles they're meant to be driving. Did Nucleon shrink the Transformers to human size, or are these just gargantuan vehicles? Parents need to know that violence is the main concern in this latest addition to the Transformers franchise, which goes by the name Transformers Prime and Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters.Clashes between the Decepticons and the Autobots are explosive and include . heightchart transformersprime Pretty self-explanatory here. Originally, the intent was apparently to make the popular Optimus and Megatron characters available at lower price points than just the large and expensive "Leader" class, so that children with less money would not miss out, and perhaps persuading completist-minded collectors to buy multiple versions of one character. Multiple-scale characters usually aren't meant to cross-interact. Did Devastator shrink? Some scale problems are for the sake of characterization. Transformers Prime RP Database Height Chart Members Search We are a literate, intermediate to advanced AU Transformers RPG Based off of the first season of TFP with dashes of other incarnations sprinkled here or there. Privacy Policy. Whereas Fortress Maximus includes a Headmaster figure of Spike, who turns into the head of Cerebros (whose toy is roughly the same size as the regular 1987 Headmasters toys), who in turn becomes the head of Fortress Maximus, Scorponok merely comes with Zarak (whose figure is the same size as Fortress Maximus's Spike), who turns into a tiny head for Scorponok, covered up by a large helmet. If the buildings were in fact supposed to be skyscrapers (or even 2000 A.D.-style arcologies) sized for 10 m (30') robots, Cybertron would still be less than 150km (100 miles) across, far smaller than even the smallest known (or even physically possible) dwarf planets. Though the keys are successfully gathered, Megatron gains possession of them and attempts to use the Omega Lock tocyberformEarth, forcing Optimus to destroy the Lock to save Earth. It's not perfect but hey, what're you going to do? In "Dark Cybertron" he's shown to be about the same size as the Lost Light. His brain module, for instance, is consistently depicted as being only a few times bigger than Windblade as opposed to the city block-sized machine it would "realistically" be. The new scale for the driver figures continued with Dark of the Moon, which introduced Scout-sized robot figures that had one-man vehicle modes in a slightly larger scale, resulting in undersized drivers riding oversized motorcycles. Similarly, the Constructicons, despite also coming from the Diaclone line, are too small, in particular Long Haul, whose alternate mode is an "earth mover" type of dump truck, which are gigantic in real life. In the otherwise fairly toy-scale-savvy Unicron Trilogy, Cybertron Metroplex and the other citizens of Gigantion are depicted as gargantuan in animation, whereas the toys are merely among the normal boxed size-classes (they do at least scale decently to each other, though). and our It was not shown until "Masters and Students". In the video game Transformers: Fall of Cybertron, Bruticus towers at least ten times as tall as any Protectobot, crushing them under his feet. Meanwhile, the beast Core toys do not adhere to any scale besides being smaller than the rest of the cast. Despite this, Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Ratchet, Starscream, and Soundwave are the only characters from Transformers: Prime to make a comeback in this new show. The Titans Return version of Broadside actually makes it worse: The figure includes tiny versions of the Aerialbots (styled specifically after their Combiner Wars alternate modes) to place on various spots on his aircraft carrier mode, but at the same time this Broadside is also a Headmaster with a Titan Master figure that can ride inside his jet mode's cockpit, arguably making the Titan Master alone larger than the Combiner Wars Aerialbots' Superion gestalt form if scale were to be taken at face value and yet the entire play pattern of the Titans Return line explicitly calls for Broadside and his Titan Master Blunderbuss to be compatible and interchangeable with any other figure and Titan Master in the line, most of whom are supposed to be much smaller in scale. The original Transformers fictions often depict characters to the same relative scale as the toys, which duplicates the intra-toyline problems described above. Notably, Chromedome, if his driver is meant to be about the size of a human, is a rather oversized car, while the issues of Fortress Maximus being way too small for a city are magnified. Saber is also correctly the height of the Autobot cars, resulting in him being smaller than the original toy (despite the Star Saber mode being bigger). Aaaand then a Deluxe-sized Groove and a new Blast Off figure with a space shuttle alternate mode are added to the line in order to revert their teams to their "classic" configurations. The vehicle modes were (supposedly) Cybertronian vehicles which also helped ignore vehicle-mode scale issues. However, that presents problems with some characters, such as Sideways (motorcycle) being the same size as Thrust (jet), especially if you assume Mirror is meant to be the size of a human. Deluxe Class, at US$10. Other Titans, such as the numerous dead Titans on Luna 1 or Chela, seem to be smaller, roughly the size of a single large building. A cast that couldn't enter buildings would be grossly inconvenient for telling some stories, so the animators fudge things. His Armada toy is notoriously covered in Mini-Con ports, despite the fact that Unicron's very nature as a character suggests that any Mini-Con large enough to Powerlinx with him would have to be about the size of Argentina. Likewise, Defensor features a motorcycle and a helicopter as limbs that are inexplicably the same size. It may just be that Titans vary in size like many other Transformers. These out-of-proportion vehicle parts were necessary to give his robot mode show-accurate proportions. The other explanation is that the artists hoped the audience wouldn't notice. In another variation of this, Prime Predaking is a colossal monster in beast mode that even the upgraded Optimus Prime can barely look in the chest, but transforms into a beefy robot a head or two taller than Megatron. The movie-franchise toys, meanwhile, are only intermittently consistent (particularly since some of the secondary ones are redecos of toys from previous lines), with the largest contrast among the "primary" toys being between Deluxe Class Arcee, a motorcycle, and Voyager Class Decepticons with helicopters as their alternate modes, such as Blackout and Incinerator. When interacting with the Autobot technology of the Ark and the Autobot shuttle, the Maximals are often dealing with equipment grossly oversized for them (standing on the chairs to reach the controls, turning knobs the size of their heads); yet the Ark also seems to feature some human-sized computer control panels. Metrotitan, the Titan that ended up on Earth, was stated by military sources to be two miles tall. Even if one character's a twenty-metre fighter jet and the other's a five-metre pickup truck. Most fans agree that one must either ignore it or accept it, lest they be tempted to explain these problems and in the process fanwank themselves into oblivion. Yet when Skywatch discovers Laserbeak at the end of the story, his head alone is suddenly the size of an adult human. A particularly odd example is the Revenge of the Fallen "The Fury of Fearswoop" three-pack, which features a Deluxe-sized Fearswoop (who transforms into a plane) and Legends Class versions of Sideswipe and Mudflap (who turn into cars), making them more or less in scale with each other yet the on-packaging bio states that Fearswoop has "grown to immense size".